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Scaling Brands: Advice from Dermalogica's Jane Wurwand

Building
December 16, 2024
Jane Wurwand shares insights on scaling, brand trust, and community building with founders of emerging businesses.
Topics discussed in the episode:
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How can startups improve their social media engagement?
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How can partnerships help startups grow their business?
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Should startups focus on one product or launch with multiple products?
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How should startups approach scaling production when resources are limited?
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How important is it for founders to trust their instincts over external advice?
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How can startups leverage customer education to drive sales?
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How can niche startups effectively compete in a crowded market?
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Should startups expand before achieving profitability?
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How can founders effectively build a community around their product?
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Why is focus crucial when starting a business?

How can startups improve their social media engagement?

An effective social media strategy requires targeted messaging and consistent engagement.

"It may have to just be very targeted with your message. It's got to be tight and targeted... Don't lighten up on that. Go heavy on that. You've got a great message."

  • Jane advises focusing on targeted messaging to reach the right audience.
  • Consistency and persistence are key in building social media traction.
  • Leverage the unique value proposition to engage followers.

How can partnerships help startups grow their business?

Building partnerships can expand reach and create synergistic opportunities for growth.

"And partnerships, partnerships, partnerships... reach out to baby brands... Those brands will often promote you... little things like that actually can have a cumulative effect over time."

  • Jane stresses the value of forming partnerships with complementary brands.
  • Collaborations can increase visibility and attract new customers.
  • Proactively reaching out can lead to mutually beneficial opportunities.

Should startups focus on one product or launch with multiple products?

Deciding between focusing on a single product or multiple depends on the business model and customer needs.

"We had to introduce that many products because skincare, as we saw it, was a regimen... It also set us apart because you couldn't just grab one product and it would do everything."

  • Jane shows that sometimes offering multiple products is necessary to meet customer expectations.
  • Understand your industry and decide if a single product suffices or if a range is needed.
  • Differentiation can come from a comprehensive product offering.

How should startups approach scaling production when resources are limited?

Scaling production too quickly can strain resources; focusing on manageable growth is key.

"I would not go to a big supermarket... Because they could eat you alive with... the amount of product you'd have to supply... So niche, small, niche tight."

  • Jane advises against expanding into large retailers prematurely.
  • Focus on smaller markets that you can supply without overextending.
  • Gradual scaling allows better control over costs and production.

How important is it for founders to trust their instincts over external advice?

Founders often know their business better than anyone and should trust their own instincts.

"I wish I'd known sooner that there are no real experts out there... You know your business the best... There's no one that's gonna run your brand or love your brand the way you do."

  • Jane highlights that founders should trust their own knowledge and intuition.
  • While external advice can help, no one understands your business like you do.
  • Believe in your vision and lead with confidence.

How can startups leverage customer education to drive sales?

Educating customers helps build desire and understanding, leading to increased sales.

"Tell, don't sell... You're not ready to sell until I am ready to buy... I want to understand what it does... We did that through education."

  • Jane advises focusing on educating customers rather than hard selling.
  • Build emotional connections by explaining the benefits and value.
  • Use education as a tool to create demand and trust.

How can niche startups effectively compete in a crowded market?

Niche startups can compete by focusing on education and targeting specific markets.

"Education, education, education... Make sure there's plenty of it on your site and in your materials... You've niched your initial distribution to farmers markets... Niche, small, niche tight."

  • Jane emphasizes the importance of educating customers about unique value propositions.
  • Target specific, smaller markets where the product resonates strongly.
  • Build customer relationships through direct engagement and sampling.

Should startups expand before achieving profitability?

Expanding too quickly can strain resources and distract from stabilizing the core business.

"I would think one would be enough to manage until you feel really strongly you've got your, you've got it worked out, and then expand to the second."

  • Jane advises focusing on perfecting one location before expanding.
  • Premature expansion can increase overhead and operational complexity.
  • Stabilize and ensure profitability before scaling up.

How can founders effectively build a community around their product?

Building a strong community can be a powerful driver for customer retention and growth.

"What we realized was they weren't just coming for the education, they were coming for the community... It's connection, it's community, it's sisterhood... Don't underestimate this community aspect."

  • Jane suggests focusing on creating a sense of community to attract and retain customers.
  • Encourage events and workshops to bring like-minded people together.
  • Leverage social media to strengthen community bonds.

Why is focus crucial when starting a business?

Focusing on a niche market is essential for startups to direct energy and resources effectively.

"But focus is the number one word I would use. Focus, focus, focus. We didn't introduce makeup, we didn't introduce hair products... Everyone told us diversify... No, no, no, skin care, skin care, skin care."

  • Jane emphasizes focusing on a specific niche to channel efforts efficiently.
  • Startups should resist the urge to diversify too soon.
  • Secure the core market before expanding.