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Revolut's CEO on Rapid Growth and Success

Fundraising
December 5, 2024
Revolut CEO Nik Storonsky discusses IPO plans, high-velocity culture, navigating challenges, and the path to a $100B valuation.
Topics discussed in the episode:
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What are Revolut's future plans for global expansion?
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Why listing in the US may be preferable over the UK?
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Why work-life imbalance might lead to success?
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Can AI improve startup investment decisions?
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How to manage multiple product bets in a startup?
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What are the challenges in entering the US market?
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Why founders should engage directly with regulators?
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How to manage a large number of direct reports?
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Why hiring experienced managers can backfire?
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How to implement KPI-based leadership effectively?

What are Revolut's future plans for global expansion?

Opening: Understanding a startup's growth strategy provides insights into scaling a business internationally. Quote:

"In three years' time, we would love to be probably alive in 50 markets... Fully localized as a bank in say 40 markets... Providing local accounts, local credit cards, local payment methods, loans and so on."

Takeaway:
  • Ambitious expansion requires careful planning and localization.
  • Offering local services enhances competitiveness in new markets.
  • Setting clear milestones helps track progress toward global presence.

Why listing in the US may be preferable over the UK?

Opening: Evaluating the best location for an IPO is crucial for maximizing liquidity and investor interest. Quote:

"I just don't understand how the product which is being provided by the UK can compete with the product provided by the US... It's much worse compared to US... Plus it's much more expensive because it's based on you... It's just not rational."

Takeaway:
  • The US markets offer greater liquidity for public companies.
  • Costs associated with listing may be lower in the US.
  • Consider market structure and investor base when choosing where to list.

Why work-life imbalance might lead to success?

Opening: Challenging conventional wisdom on work-life balance, sometimes imbalance may be key to reaching ambitious goals. Quote:

"I think in reality, disbalanced life allows you to achieve your goals... More focused on your goals, sacrificing everything else, more likely you will succeed those goals."

Takeaway:
  • Intense focus on goals may require personal sacrifices.
  • Success might come from prioritizing work over other aspects temporarily.
  • Founders should be aware of the trade-offs between balance and achievement.

Can AI improve startup investment decisions?

Opening: Leveraging data and machine learning models can enhance the accuracy of startup investments. Quote:

"I started effectively a small team of data scientists... and then we trained machine learning models on the startups... The model amazingly outperforms 95% of VCs over there on backtest."

Takeaway:
  • Data-driven approaches can reduce bias in investment decisions.
  • Machine learning models can identify promising startups more effectively.
  • Combining human insight with AI can outperform traditional methods.

How to manage multiple product bets in a startup?

Opening: Running multiple product experiments simultaneously can drive growth but requires careful management. Quote:

"We have 20-plus bets running at once... Out of 27 bets that we launched last 2.5, 3 years, like amazingly worked probably say five... But if you look at the whole portfolio, how much money it generates, it's just amazing."

Takeaway:
  • Maintain a portfolio of product experiments to discover winning products.
  • Accept that not all bets will succeed; focus on overall portfolio performance.
  • Scale successful products aggressively while containing resources on others.

What are the challenges in entering the US market?

Opening: Expanding into the US market presents unique challenges for fintech companies due to regulatory and market dynamics. Quote:

"People in the US never tried their digital bank with a credit card with all the functionalities that we have... The fintechs partnering with the bank issuing debit cards is just not a very attractive proposition."

Takeaway:
  • US consumers prefer credit cards over debit cards due to rewards and benefits.
  • Partnerships with traditional banks can limit innovation and flexibility.
  • Success requires offering competitive products that meet local preferences.

Why founders should engage directly with regulators?

Opening: Direct communication with regulators can lead to better understanding and faster progress for startups in regulated industries. Quote:

"Whatever you speak or regulate as yourself... because you build it yourself... I can explain it in very simple terms... Instead, hiring some grey-haired banking [people] who have been in the business for a long time... it's very bad advice."

Takeaway:
  • Founders can effectively explain their innovative models directly to regulators.
  • Direct engagement reduces misunderstandings and accelerates licensing processes.
  • Delegating to traditional executives may hinder progress due to misalignment.

How to manage a large number of direct reports?

Opening: Managing a large team requires selecting self-driven individuals who can operate independently. Quote:

"We got 40-plus direct reports... so they should be like a self-guided missile... able to reach the goal themselves without you directing them."

Takeaway:
  • Hire excellent people who are self-motivated and goal-oriented.
  • Empower team members to achieve goals independently.
  • Reduce micromanagement by building a team of strong performers.

Why hiring experienced managers can backfire?

Opening: Hiring experienced managers doesn't always yield the expected results, especially in fast-growing startups. Quote:

"I made a lot of mistakes scaling the team... believing that in order to scale the company, you have to hire experienced professional managers... I ended up firing 49 out of 50 of them."

Takeaway:
  • Experienced managers may not fit the startup culture or pace.
  • Hire people who can deliver and are execution-oriented.
  • Trust your instincts and be cautious with conventional hiring advice.

How to implement KPI-based leadership effectively?

Opening: Implementing KPI-based leadership can greatly enhance organizational performance by aligning individual goals with the company's objectives. Quote:

"So we set up the goals for the company as we usually, we have 5-6 goals for a year and then we quantify those goals... every single effective team department and then on individual. So every single department and team in the company, we have metrics describing the performance..."

Takeaway:
  • Set clear, quantifiable goals at company, department, and individual levels.
  • Cascade goals throughout the organization for alignment.
  • Use metrics and regular reviews to maintain accountability.