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Lime CEO on $90M EBITDA and Surviving COVID

Strategy
February 3, 2025
Wayne Ting reveals Lime's journey to profitability, COVID survival, and key strategies behind their micromobility success.
Topics discussed in the episode:
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How to handle difficult decisions like layoffs?
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How to navigate VC funding hype cycles?
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How to enhance customer experience in a crowded market?
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How to optimize operations with software and AI?
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How to leverage partnerships for survival?
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How to maintain a startup during a crisis?
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How to win competitive RFPs in regulated markets?
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How to scale supply and increase demand?
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How to use data to optimize operations?
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How to improve unit economics in hardware startups?

How to handle difficult decisions like layoffs?

Wayne shares lessons from conducting layoffs during COVID-19, offering guidance on handling tough decisions.

\"Never promise people this is the only round because you never know... When you break your word, then people start questioning other decisions that you have.\"

  • Be cautious in making promises during uncertainty.
  • Maintain trust by being honest about the situation.
  • Communicate transparently about challenges and decisions.

How to navigate VC funding hype cycles?

Wayne offers his perspective on VC hype and its impact on startups.

\"These hype cycles are generally bad for companies because it allows them to avoid learning hard lessons... When all the VCs moved on... that's when focusing on great operations... started paying dividends.\"

  • Avoid reliance on ample VC funding.
  • Focus on sustainable operations.
  • Strengthen fundamentals during tough times.

How to enhance customer experience in a crowded market?

Wayne describes how Lime differentiated its product to improve customer experience and gain market share.

\"We believe fundamentally you can't drive right customer preference if you cannot differentiate... we want to build something that's differentiated so that customers are willing to walk further and pay more to use Lime.\"

  • Differentiate products even in crowded markets.
  • Improve customer experience to drive preference.
  • Invest in unique features to stand out.

How to optimize operations with software and AI?

Wayne explains how Lime uses software and machine learning to optimize operations for efficiency.

\"We have a machine learning demand algorithm that predicts where we think trips are going to come from... Every move task has to be ROI positive.\"

  • Utilize AI for demand forecasting.
  • Automate tasks with software.
  • Ensure operational actions are ROI positive.

How to leverage partnerships for survival?

Wayne discusses the strategic partnership with Uber during COVID-19, illustrating leveraging partnerships.

\"We went to Uber and Uber at the time owned and operated their own micromobility business called Jump... I pitched Dara this idea of letting them sell Jump to us... Lime wouldn't have survived if we did not do that deal.\"

  • Identify strategic partnerships with mutual benefits.
  • Be bold in proposing crucial deals.
  • Leverage partnerships in tough times.

How to maintain a startup during a crisis?

Wayne shares how Lime navigated COVID-19 challenges, offering advice on crisis management.

\"You just have a choice between bad and worse... making a call quickly... I would say cutting deeper than maybe you would expect was really important because if we come back for another round of layoffs, that's when I think the management team really loses credibility.\"

  • Act decisively in crises.
  • Prioritize transparency and credibility.
  • Make proactive cuts to avoid repeated layoffs.

How to win competitive RFPs in regulated markets?

Wayne explains Lime's success in winning RFPs, sharing strategies for founders dealing with regulatory environments.

\"We actually like the competitive RFP process... Lime is really, really good at winning competitive RFPs. We have a greater than 90% win rate...\"

  • Embrace regulatory processes to reduce competition.
  • Excel in RFPs to secure market entry.
  • Leverage strengths to achieve market leadership.

How to scale supply and increase demand?

Wayne discusses Lime's finding that increasing supply boosts utilization, offering insights into strategic scaling.

\"As we grow our supply, our utilization on a unit basis goes up because more people now can reliably choose Lime as their transportation default.\"

  • Increasing supply enhances reliability.
  • Reliability attracts more users.
  • Scale supply strategically to boost demand.

How to use data to optimize operations?

Wayne shares how building a data foundation helped Lime improve operational efficiency, leveraging data for better decisions.

\"I spent a lot of that first couple of months building out data.lime, which is an internal tool to give us accurate data across hundreds of operational metrics for every region...\"

  • Develop internal tools for accurate data tracking.
  • Use data to understand and improve operations.
  • Track key metrics to enhance performance.

How to improve unit economics in hardware startups?

Wayne explains how Lime transformed its unit economics by investing in proprietary hardware and operational efficiencies.

\"By building, investing in our own hardware, focusing in on this game of inches, micro improvements... When we deploy our hardware, we can pay back within the first year, and it lasts for more than 5 years from the 30 days I was describing before.\"

  • Invest in proprietary hardware to control quality.
  • Focus on incremental improvements to reduce costs.
  • Achieve better unit economics through strategic investments.